Once again treating news of other people’s pain as an opportunity to score political points, Donald Trump seized on Huma Abedin’s decision to separate from Anthony Weiner on Monday as an opportunity to repeat his unsubstantiated claim that Hillary Clinton’s closest aide must have shared classified information with her husband and draw attention to a fringe conspiracy theory that she is a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood.
“I know Anthony Weiner well,” Trump said in a press release about the former congressman he donated $2,000 to in 2010, the year before evidence of his sext addiction was first reported by Andrew Breitbart.
“He’s a very sick guy and, if you look back, you’ll see that I said, at the beginning, the worst thing she can do is marry this guy,” Trump then told a conservative radio host.
Having congratulated himself for his foresight, Trump moved on to speculating that this private matter might have national security implications if, as he first suggested last year, Abedin had shared any classified material she was privy to through her work at the State Department with her husband.
“Hillary Clinton was careless and negligent in allowing Weiner to have such close proximity to highly classified information,” Trump said, treating a theory he concocted a year ago as if it were established fact. “Who knows what he learned and who he told?” he continued. “It is possible that our country and its security have been greatly compromised by this.”
Trump had suggested that Abedin must have shared classified information with her husband last year, after CBS News reported that in 2011, she had used her own State Department email account to forward an unclassified message to Clinton’s private server that, intelligence officials said later, should have been treated as classified.
At a fundraiser in Massachusetts last August, Trump insisted that there was no chance that Abedin had not divulged classified information to Weiner since, he said, any woman who is “in love with” her husband would certainly do so.
“Do you think there’s even a 5 percent chance that she’s not telling Anthony Weiner … what the hell is coming across?” Trump asked, rhetorically. “Do you think there’s even a little bit of a chance? I don’t think so.”
“Are there any women in this room who are in love with their husbands who wouldn’t be telling them everything?” Trump then asked the crowd. When one woman said she did love her husband but would not break an oath to keep classified information secret, Trump replied dismissively, “No, you will.”
The frankly sexist nature of that accusation against Abedin is unlikely to dissuade Trump from repeating it again and again until November, along with the racist lie that Clinton’s Muslim-American aide is a terrorist sympathizer and a security risk.
In his interview with the conservative radio host Dori Monson on Monday, Trump made a coded reference to recent attempts by his allies to revive the discredited rumor, spread by the former Reagan official Frank Gaffney and the current Trump adviser Michele Bachmann, that Abedin has ties to “radical Islam.”
“Take a look at where she worked, by the way, and take a look at where her mother worked and works,” Trump told Monson. “Huma Abedin has access to classified information. How Hillary got away with that one, nobody will ever know.”
Trump was referring to the latest version of the smear campaign against Abedin, dredged up from the Islamophobe blogosphere last week by the New York Post and Fox News in misleading reports that wildly misrepresented her work on the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, a scholarly periodical founded by her late father, Syed Abedin.
That peer-reviewed journal — which focuses on research into both minority strains of Islam and issues facing Muslims who live in countries where they are minorities — has been run, since its founder’s death in 1993, by Abedin’s mother, Saleha S. Mahmood, a sociologist who teaches at a liberal women’s college in Saudi Arabia.
That Abedin was raised in Saudi Arabia raises alarm bells for conspiracists with little knowledge of her family’s background. Her parents are not Saudi but Indian, and both were born there during the British colonial era. Her father was educated at Aligarh Muslim University, an institution founded in the late 19th century by Sir Syed Ahmad Khan, a reformer who wanted Indian Muslims to embrace Western notions of education and rationalism so that they could live in the modern world but retain their identities. He then completed doctoral work, in American Civilization, at the University of Pennsylvania, as did his wife.
The Abedins were working at Western Michigan University when Huma was born in Kalamazoo in 1976. Two years later, the family moved to Saudi Arabia, where Syed founded an institute devoted to fostering religious understanding. Huma went to a British girls’ school in Jeddah until she returned to the United States to attend George Washington University. While still a student there, she began working for Clinton as an intern.
Since her father died when she was 17, Huma and two of her siblings have at various times assisted their mother in keeping his publication alive, shepherding into print scholarly research articles like “European Modernity and Islamic Reformism among Muslims of the Balkans in the Late-Ottoman and Post-Ottoman Period (1830s–1945),” “Pre-modern Globalization and Islamic Networks under Mongol Rule: Some Preliminary Considerations on the Spreading of Sufi Knowledge in Gansu-Qinghai,” and “West African Islam in Colonial and Antebellum South Carolina.”
Abedin’s work on this academic periodical, which ended in 2008, has recently become fodder for conspiracy theorists, including Roger Stone, the longtime Trump adviser who got his start in politics fabricating smears to make Richard Nixon’s rivals look bad. In a post for the Trump-supporting platform Breitbart in June, Stone claimed that Abedin’s work on the academic journal suggested that she might be “an Islamic spy.”
Last week, that baseless allegation was recycled by a New York Post columnist, who called the periodical “a radical Muslim publication,” and a Benghazi conspiracist who referred to it as “a Sharia law journal” in a post for The Hill.
The tenuous support for this idea is that the journal is produced by the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs, a think tank founded by Syed Abedin in 1978, with the backing of the president of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah at the time, Abdullah Omar Naseef. Five years later, Naseef became secretary-general of the Muslim World League, a pan-Islamic nongovernmental organization.
As the Washington Post reporter Glenn Kessler explained last week, the key link in the chain for conspiracy theorists is Naseef’s later support for the anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan.
In 1988, during his tenure at the Muslim World League, Naseef authorized a Pakistani charity called the Rabita Trust at a time when the United States and its allies funded the mujahideen fighting the Soviet troops occupying Afghanistan. Years later, the fund became associated with al-Qaeda (which, after all, emerged from the mujahideen) and was frozen in 2002 by the Treasury Department after the 9/11 attacks. But that distant connection, a quarter-century later, is now used to tar Abedin.
In reality, the whole thrust of the journal — the close study of minority strains of Islam — is evidence that it is not a vehicle for spreading the ideology of Sunni Muslim fundamentalism embraced by Islamist militants.
Dale Eickelman, an anthropologist at Dartmouth who serves on the journal’s editorial advisory board, laughed at the idea that the publication was a front for “radical Islam” in an interview with The Intercept last week. Pointing to a number of research articles on minority sects of Islam, he said, “A journal that had a Sunni supremacist outlook simply would not produce such studies.”
“Like any good journal which is taken seriously by academics,” he said, “it introduces people from a wide variety of perspectives.”
“To call the journal radical is astonishing,” Eickelman said. “I suppose somebody could go through and look at individual arguments” that might sound extreme, he added, “but I find it well within the spectrum of the golden mean of academic journals.”
Ali Asani, who directs the Islamic Studies program at Harvard University and also serves on the journal’s editorial board, told The Intercept that there was no ideological pressure at all coming from the editors of the publication. When Asani published some of his own research in the journal, it was on South-Asian Ismaili communities, who follow an offshoot of Shiite Islam. Ismailis in Pakistan have been the target of deadly terrorist attacks by a branch of the Taliban that pledged allegiance to the Islamic State in 2014. A spokesperson for the Pakistani Taliban told Reuters last year that the group had killed dozens of Ismailis on a bus in Karachi “because we consider them kafir,” or non-Muslims. “In the coming days we will attack Ismailis, Shiites, and Christians,” the spokesperson added.
Asani also recalled that Syed Abedin was so far from being a supporter of fundamentalist Islam that he once invited Bernard Lewis, the neoconservative icon, to give the keynote address at an academic conference he organized in the 1980s about Muslims living as minorities in the West. Lewis also served for a time as a member of the journal’s editorial advisory board, and his name was listed on the masthead near Huma Abedin’s.
In 2012, when Michele Bachmann endorsed Frank Gaffney’s wild claims that Abedin was connected to a supposed Muslim Brotherhood plot to infiltrate the United States government through her late father, another respected scholar on the journal’s editorial board, John Esposito of Georgetown University, provided evidence that Syed Abedin was an outspoken opponent of political violence in the name of Islam.
As Esposito noted in an article eviscerating the conspiracy theory about Huma Abedin, her father published a rejection of such attacks in the Saudi Gazette in 1992, two months after the outbreak of war in Bosnia. In an excerpt from that article republished in the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs in 2000, Syed Abedin argued: “Wherever the glory of Allah is sought to be proclaimed through the barrel of a gun … there God is banished and Satan is triumphant; there the angels weep and the soul of man cringes; there in the name of God, humans are dehumanized; and there the grace and beauty of life lies ravished and undone. When would men ever realize: in this game there are no winners.”
Despite the lack of any evidence that Huma Abedin has extremist sympathies, it seems extremely likely that Trump will continue to suggest that she does, given that his new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, has played a central role in nurturing the myth that Muslims immigrants are secretly plotting to impose Sharia, the Islamic code that guides Muslim beliefs and actions, on all Americans.
Conway, a veteran pollster whose current role seems to be making Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric about Muslims and immigrants sound somewhat reasonable, previously played a key role in the anti-Sharia movement.
As Andrea Elliott of the New York Times has explained, a small number of dedicated activists, clustered around Frank Gaffney, have relentlessly promoted the idea that Sharia “is not just an expression of faith but a political and legal system that seeks world domination” and poses an existential threat to Americans.
“Yet, for all its fervor,” Elliott reported in 2011, “the movement is arguably directed at a problem more imagined than real.”
By using questionable methodology to poll American Muslims for Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy in Washington, and calling the findings alarming, Conway has played an important role in making this imaginary threat seem urgent to a significant minority of Americans, including Donald Trump.
In a video posted online by Gaffney’s group last year, Conway celebrated how widespread awareness of the supposed threat from Sharia had become among Americans, prompted, she said, by an increasing number of news reports about the threat.
What Conway neglected to mention was how much her own work for Gaffney had contributed to the spike in news reports.
For example, a poll Conway conducted for Gaffney’s center last summer, asking 600 Muslim volunteers recruited online about their attitudes to Sharia, immediately generated an alarmist segment of The O’Reilly Factor, in which the survey’s questionable methodology was never explained, or even mentioned.
(The data was essentially useless since, as the Pew Research Center has explained, when pollsters “use one-time surveys that invite participation from whoever sees the survey invitation online, or rely on panels of respondents who opt-in or volunteer to participate in the panel … the relationship between the sample and the population is unknown.” What that means is that there is no way of knowing how representative the sample is of the population of American Muslims as a whole.)
Then too, as the Democratic pollster Mark Mellman argued in December — after Trump cited Conway’s poll in support of his proposal for “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” after the San Bernardino attack — the survey questions were apparently shaped to produce findings that would sound alarming, and Gaffney’s interpretation of the data was profoundly misleading.
The same week that Trump elevated Conway from an adviser to his campaign manager, he also signaled his intention to play up the imaginary threat posed to Americans by Sharia. Speaking on August 15 about his plans to crack down on “radical Islam,” Trump announced his intention to impose an ideological test at U.S. borders that clearly identified Muslims as its main target. “In addition to screening out all members or sympathizers of terrorist groups,” Trump said, “we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles — or who believe that Sharia law should supplant American law.”
Mackey has lost objectivity. You don’t have to be a Trump supporter, and I am not, to see that he is in the tank deep for Hillary and Co.
Glenn, if you intend to run an always adversarial news organization, against the administrations of all governments, but especially the US, then Mackey is not helping.
I realize that his mettle has not been tested the way yours, Laura’s, Jeremy’s and Assange has, but you would think hr would have got the memo at least!
Every single government in this world is evil and cannot be trusted. The people who want power are the ones who should never have it.
Buddying up to politicians and becoming stenographers for the state is not the mission of The Intercept.
We need The Intercept and Wikileaks to do the reporting that topples governments all over the world, until no government is left to topple. No more State boundary lines.
Was this moronic article that reminds me of something written in the anti-Trump Washington Post some kind of freebie payback or something?? Because it’s so bad I could only make it to about the 3rd paragraph before coming here to comment. We already know about the propensity for Hillary and those around her, including the illustrious Mrs Weiner, for lying – it’s what they do. So why don’t you warn us in the future when this guy’s going to write something and I’ll make that dental appointment for the same time instead??
Only 114 Comments in 3 days! Try going to a web site with tens of thousands of comments in 3 days: Breitbart.com. theintercept.com should be called thecomedy.com with its idiotic articles like “Don’t Expect Donald Trump to Stop Lying About Huma Abedin” and slanderous comedy about Katrina Pierson.
I guess the truth about Huma must really hurt because the harpy’s lackeys like this fellow are up in arms about its exposure. He also must get over the suspicion that Huma, rather than Slick Willie, is the Harpy’s main squeeze. That fact probably largely explains her role despite the suspicion aroused by her Saudi background (I know she was actually born in south Asia but moved to Saudi at age 2; I also know that her mother spearheads a sort to treason to femininity among Islamic anti-feminists. Her deplorable record is obvious to anybody who has made the most cursory study of it. Are you going to believe the pro-Clinton commentariat’s propaganda or your lying eyes?
Please. I am SICK and TIRED of HEARING about HUMA. And I think it a waste in Intercept resources to write stories like this about MEANINGLESS gossipy trash, however spurious and hatred-motivated. Unless she joins this summer’s previous two young men in winding up dead.
Whichever party wins the White House, Satan will find himself rolling on the floor in a fit of uncontrollable laughter. :)
Something aboot glass houses, something about stones, I don’t know… Clinton friends seem to be left by the wayside a lot. Good Luck Huma…….
@Robert Mackey:
You stamp yourself an idiot everyday Donald Trump continues to ignore Huma Abedin and contradict your concoction.
What honorable person could ever marry a pos like Weiner?
No way,baby,is this woman to be trusted,and if she works for the McCarthyite hell bitch,a double knock on her character.
A nest of traitors.
So an article titled “Don’t Expect Donald Trump to Stop Lying About Huma Abedin” is actually a point by point refutation of allegations leveled at Abedin by everyone BUT Donald Trump. Huh?
What exactly did he lie about? Not single lie spoken by Trump is cited.
Ethically hilarious statements such as: “It seems extremely likely he will suggest…” isn’t really a lie, is it.
What are you talking about? It’s replete with quotes from Trump baselessly accusing Abedin of giving classified information to Weiner. Did you even read this?
“Hillary Clinton was careless and negligent in allowing Weiner to have such close proximity to highly classified information. Who knows what he learned and who he told? It is possible that our country and its security have been greatly compromised by this.”
– Clownface von Fuckstick
“Do you think there’s even a 5 percent chance that she’s not telling Anthony Weiner … what the hell is coming across? Do you think there’s even a little bit of a chance? I don’t think so.”
– Clownface von Fuckstick
“Are there any women in this room who are in love with their husbands who wouldn’t be telling them everything? Take a look at where she worked, by the way, and take a look at where her mother worked and works. Huma Abedin has access to classified information. How Hillary got away with that one, nobody will ever know.”
– Clownface von Fuckstick
Pulling shit out of your ass is called lying in the reality-based community.
Actually no, none of those are lies. No demonstrably false accusation is leveled, nowhere does it say “She said XXX” when it is demonstrably false. These are opinions ranted carelessly, but they’re not lies.
What does nonsense about loving your husband have to do with lying about Huma Abedin?
I know I’m stepping into Deconstructionist Liberals in Wonder Land, where words are meaningless, but here is a lie: “Huma Abedin’s name is actually Marcia.”
Get it?
“Huma Abedin has access to classified information.”
That’s called a LIE. Get it?
No, of course you don’t. After 14 months of rightwingers defending Trump’s lies they don’t even understand that there’s a difference between truth and lies.
Whoa. Trying to control the vertigo as we plunge down the rabbit hole . Yes, she did have access to classified information, no one disputes that. She even writes about having access in her e-mails:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/23/emails-hillarys-top-aide-left-classified-information-in-her-car/
The hell bitches aide wasn’t privy to classified info that she could pass to her traitor zionist husband?
Sheesh,the naivety of some.
Trumps lies?
Defending the worst possible candidate for POTUS in American history,HRC,is an exercise in perfidy and delusion.
She aint looking too good lately,is she physically ill,along with mentally?
It’s called “lying by implication” or “just asking questions,” and is done by the intellectually disreputable all the time. If you think the kinds of people who support Donald Trump don’t take his intended implications as gospel truth you haven’t been paying attention.
The kinds of people that back Trump;American patriots back Trump,while ziotraitors back your hell bitch.
Mona …
Would that be similar to the “just asking questions” letter from the Senate and House dims to the FBI suggesting the Trump campaign should be officially investigated for possible ties to Putin’s crew in Moscow?
You do realize both parties are irredeemable frauds, don’t you? The Kool-Aid offered by each of them may be differently flavored, but it’s all still just Kool-Aid.
Anyone defending that monster,HRC,needs their head examined.
Donald Trump has killed no one,and wants a more cooperative world than the USzion disaster we currently are inflicted with.
And Obomba wants no part of DT gaining POTUS and finding and announcing to the world your zero heros actual abysmal record.
And Clinton choosing this woman,knowing her husbands complete debauchery,leaving him wide open to blackmail,as PA, is just another clue to her absolute bubbleheaded nature.
But she’s like dracula,all the nails in her coffin are so blunted by MSM absolvement and collusion,in the most naked attempted theft of the POTUS in American history,that she still is above ground level, a political corpse wasting away in the disinfectant of sunlight, despite Zionist MSM bloviation like this garbage.
The MSM lie like rugs.:)
HumaAbedin does this to herself. As a muslim, who married a jew, her father becomes obliged to an honorkilling if others request; Father and Mother own a rather strict muslim journal; Mother writes a book supportive of Sharia law hurting women, yet resides within the safety from harm in the US– WOW! there is a hell of a lot of personal conflict here. Hint: when people feel comfortable living with a lot of personal conflict, they can handle a lot of professional conflict as well!
I wish these two women just found the honesty and courage to come out of the closet.
Yeah, why not? Given the “Twilight” phenomenon, no longer is there any stigma associated with being a bloodthirsty vampire.
More interesting excerpts from the Wikileaks Hillary Clinton emails between Huma Abedin, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Jake Sullivan on Clinton’s ardent support for regime change in Libya and Syria:
On Hillary Clinton’s effort to get Obama to OK the overthrow of Gaddafi:
Gaddafi made a big mistake by not donating to the Clinton Foundation; if he’d put up $32 million like the Crown Prince of Bahrain did, who would doubt that Clinton would have been opposed to military intervention? Note Clinton’s complete lack of interest in ‘representative democracy’ or ‘women’s rights’ in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.
On the regime change program in Syria:
As with Libya, the whole group of people around Hillary Clinton seemed bent on military intervention in Syria with the aim of removing Assad from power – and gosh, Assad, like Gaddafi, and unlike the Saudi, Bahraini, Qatari or UAE Royals, was not a donor to the Clinton Foundation.
Coincidence? Or just a reflection of how tightly the despotic Gulf dictatorships are allied with the U.S. government and both public and private levels? How can the U.S. government call for “representative democratic transitions” in Syria and Libya, but not Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain and the UAE? Or, as is more likely, is that just BS-speak, with the true goal being the emplacement of Gulf-dictatorship-style regimes in Libya and Syria?
Of course, this doesn’t really play well for Trump-supporting Republicans, does it, since Republican Congressmembers like McCain and Graham have also been up to their necks in this cesspit.
No wonder wallstreet loves her. Hellary “anything for a buck” Clinton. Her opposition to the NRA is a sham.
hellary has a lot of fans. doesnt make her fan-tastic. more like sham-tastic.
The FBI must be called in to investigate the allegation that Russian spies have placed bugs in Weiner’s shorts.
Also wanted to thank Mr. Mackey for another trenchant insightful really really important piece of journalism.
I mean what better way to keep nonsensical conspiracy theories alive than giving them 40 to 50 paragraphs of “serious” analysis on a daily basis in a major American online publication.
Thanks again Mr. Mackey, don’t really know what the world would do without this sort of superlative investigative journalism. Big big fan of this sort of reporting. Thanks again.
I’d like to see Mackey start doing exhaustive analysis and deconstruction of everything Alex Jones and David Icke put on the Internet; that would be fascinating.
Even better, he could spend his time digging through Clinton emails. . . here’s another revealing one:
Just to assure that we are all working off of the same sheet of music, below is the updated outreach plan for key African leaders and independent voices on Libya -we have highlighted changes based on updated information today. March 21, 2011
Just put “huma abedin” in the Wikileaks search box on the Clinton email page, and you get almost 10,000 results. Avert your eyes, Mr. Mackey – it’s like watching U.S. State Department porn, which believe me, is far more interesting than Mr. Weiner’s twitter feed.
The one overriding trend is this obsession with scripted productions, media manipulation, image-consciousness above all else.
And I just can’t get these pro-Hillary pundits to respond to the question: “If Gaddafi had dropped $32 million on the Clinton Foundation, would Hillary Clinton have pushed the POTUS to greenlight his overthrow?”
Don’t wanna talk about it! Nostrils flare. . . tempers rise. . . shut up! Just shut up about it!
I for one welcome our new Muslim overlords.
And now that Huma Abedin has wisely kicked Mr. Weiner-Pervo to the curb, I was wondering if Ms. Abedin will start posting a dating profile on Muslima.com, elitesingles.com or lovehabibi.com because I haven’t been getting any responses to my online dating profile at any of those sites. And I would really like to because I think Muslim women are really smart and hot. And Indian women too. And Latina women. Oh yeah and African American women. Oh yeah and them southern girls who wear them really short daisy duke shorts.
Oh wait somehow I thought I was posting on a Reddit or 4chan thread. My bad. Now back to all y’all giving serious thought to the preposterous theories that Trump is a Soviet plant and/or that Abedin is a sleeper agent of the Muslim Brotherhood.
I think it is really really awesome sauce that like all cynical cyclical American fads, McCarthyism has found its way back into popular American political culture. I mean seriously what could possibly ever go wrong with Congress and/or the FBI targeting Americans and blacklisting them for saying sane humane or rational things about Russia or Muslims?
I really do live in one of the most dumbed down nations that has ever existed and that is always seeking to appeal to the lowest common denominator in its culture and pandering to their fear du jour. It really never surprises me that we can’t have nice things in this country. We are getting precisely the government we deserve, and getting it good and hard. At least until the wheels come off and we do something monumentally stupid like spark up a direct military conflict with say the Russians or the Iranians. Which would be a real hoot and either financially destroy America and/or destroy the world, which of course would make American bible bangers of a particular variety very very happy as they’d all be Raptured up to the great eternal sit-in with the Flying Spaghetti Monster who created the Underverse.
I think it would be really nice to have been born in Canada or Denmark. I mean those nations may have their problems too, but they seem to operate in the world from a place of basic peace-seeking and sanity–unlike America or Americans.
Apparently you never heard of a guy named Harper.
” . . . a reformer who wanted Indian Muslims to embrace Western notions of education and rationalism so that they could live in the modern world but retain their identities”
Who is using “coded phrases” and “racist lies” now? Education and rationalism are not the property of the “West”.
You’re demonstrating your ignorance of Sir Syed Ahmed Khan here, he was in love with specifically western education and science, and believed Indian Muslims could grow prosperous only if they adopted it. Hence the university, perhaps the first “modern” university in “modern” India.
Forget Trump; he’s not running for president. What is notable is that she is married to the Weiner Wanker!
I’m scratching my head as to why The Intercept hired this hack. All he does is extrude pro-Hillary propaganda. Did they also hire someone to belch out pro-Trump stuff? And why would they–for either candidate? It’s just weird, not congruent with this site’s reputation and identity.
The Intercept is becoming more like Vox or The Daily Beast, not so much adversarial journalism. There seems to be less original investigative work as well, although I could be imagining that. Either way it’s a disappointment.
What’s been lost in all this is Huma dumping Weenie is great news for Bill Clinton. Now, he doesn’t have to compete with Carlos Danger for action.
Don’t Expect Robert Mackey to Stop Lying About Donald Trump
Fixed it.
Spare a thought for Weiner that he did not suicide-bomb having been under the influence of moderate shaaria jihadist.
I don’t know anything about Ms. Abedin, but if she is an aide to Mrs. Clinton, I suspect the worst.
Mr. Trump often makes valid points, even if he uses lies to make them.
What about Bob? Have you no empathy for Bob? Bob … is going to bust a blood vessel trash-talking Trump all the time!
*imho, it’s not healthy, and the odds are, unnecessary. The Clinton political machine is vast. .. and includes Donald Trump.
Bob is tough. He could burst all his blood vessels and still turn out a Trump article a day.
If the odds are so good for the HB,why are they pulling out all stops in demonizing Trump,including McCarthy tactics?
They are scared shiteless,the zionists,and she is their agent.
Look at her flailing at Trumps visit to Mexico like the unhinged pos she is.And she looks ill.
Anthony Weiner is no threat to national security. Not unless somebody at the Pentagon *allows* him to sit naked on top of a nuclear missile or a secret airplane to take a selfie for his newest lady friend.
Yes Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin and Trump are lied about in this down and dirty campaign. However, there is plenty real dirt on all of them, pick your own lesser evil. We will all get to live with one of two bad bunches. I will vote for Trump because if he strays too far he will get caught and opposition in both parties will impeach him. Hillry will play the system without consequence, that is what the Clintons do.
Smearing is a staple in US. Politics and specially elections.
Donald fits right in….
Wait what? How does one’s train of thought even derail so far to jump from the unsubstantiated e-mail nothingburger to the question Ms Abedin being married to Weiner? If she worked in the DoS and had access to classified materials, she was subject to a security clearance just like anybody else. Are we discussing whether the system of security clearances works? If so, what has Clinton to do with anything?
She(HRC) hired her(HA).WTF?
The habits of Anthony Weiner are definitely a security threat, let alone being a morally reprehensible one. That a person like Huma Abedine with access to national secrets should be cohabiting with this kind of a known threat is something that should never have been taken lightly. People living in such terrible family environments are automatically precluded from getting security clearances.
But then Crooked Hillary never paid any attention to classified material, let alone make sure she employed the right staff to deal with them. People in North Korea have been shot with cannons for far more benign offenses.
This aside, it is a stunning situation where a Secretary of State uses a private mail server to plaster the internet with hackable state secrets, and the FBI, the CIA and the NSA who jointly have custody of those secrets either have no idea of what was happening, or did not bother to correct the situation for the entire four years tenure of that wayward secretary and her team. We know from Snowden’s documents that all emails were being sucked up during that period. Yet incredulously, no one noticed that the secretary and her team was leaking vital secrets.
Whatever Crooked Hillary has done may be “grossly negligent”, but what the national security team has done, or not done in this case, is “criminally negligent”. It is James Comey and his band of security brothers who must be indicted.
Oy weh, oy weh, oy yahweh.
Mr. Mackey’s polemic against Trump reflects & betrays the kinda functional solipsism endemic & epidemic to the USA, and that’s so deeply characteristic & distinctive of the lower echelons of its MSM food-chain. Talk about the wrong end of the stick. It’s as though Mackey were standing on the continent of North America but supposed he had actually just landed on the shores of India — and this despite the splendid red skins and exquisite slit eyes of all the natives.
Recycling Trump’s ignorance, Mackey assumes the whole Huma Abedin issue can be reduced to whether or not she is actually a secret agent of the Muslim Brotherhood and/or Wahabis who, operating behind the scenes within the US government, pro-actively champions and fosters that form of radical Islam which can rightly be dubbed shariah. But there exists a whole other dimension here, to which the journo remains oblivious despite its manifest presence, by now, in the public domain for those discerning enough to perceive it.
YouTube searches utilizing the words Clinton / Gulen / Turkish Cultural Center will summon forth a small slew of videos such as, from seven years back, “Bill Clinton: Fethullah Gulen’s Contribution to the World, Turkish Cultural Center Friendship Dinner”; and “Hillary Clinton’s Message for Turkish Cultural Center’s Annual Friendship Dinner”.
And recent emails published by Wikileaks indicate none other than Huma Abedin as the very broker of the so-called ‘interfaith’ dialogue putatively advocated by the Gulenist cult.
Rather important of mention here, then, is that, in 1997, the Turkish Mullah Fethullah Gulen was charged by the then government of Turkey with conspiring with umpteen members of his so-called Hizmet (= Service) cemaat (= congregation) to usurp the resolutely secular state enshrined over a half century before by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk –whereupon, as its asset + liability, the CIA shortly arranged for some kind of Lear jet to fly the Imam to comfort & safety in the US, where the dear leader and his followers have since created and presided over any number of businesses, big & small, plus some 150 or more (Turkish Sufi Muslim) charter schools scattered, and very controversially so (go google), over the length & breadth of the nation.
For more on this Gulen/CIA narrative, I can do no better here than refer interested readers — and Robert Mackey, for whom some form of force-feeding is urgently and very strongly indicated — to the string of comments posted by the toidiY sselesU and others in response to the curiously unsubstantial article on Gulen and the USA by Tolga Tanis, published @ The Intercept hardly more than a week ago.
Thus, as one might say, the Clintons’ and Huma Abedin’s brand of Islam is evidently not so much that of the Wahabis, Morsi, and Erdogan but, rather, of the less flagrant yet potentially insidious kind typically associated over the centuries with the mystical Rumi-style rapturous clap-trap and clandestine politico-fiscal machinations (= behind-the-scenes influence peddling, so characteristic of Free Masonry @ EU + USA) of the Sufis. Whether or not that is in any way alarming and should matter very much in terms of current & future US politics is another issue altogether, but one that should at least be properly apprehended and comprehended in the appropriate anthropologic cum religious-cultural context.
Two issues not addressed by Mackey but which seem to me to be material nonetheless:- (1) Was Huma Abedin, as HRC’s long-time aide, ever formally awarded US security clearance, and if so at which (< to what) level? (2) On the basis of his own assertions, can we confidently assume that, were Trump ever to be coronated as POTUS, he (too) would routinely share state secrets with his [formerly Slovenian?] wife [Marla, or whatever's her name]?
I trust — and especially in view of this last question that I invite — it will not prove necessary for me to spend the next 6 or 7 days pointing out to multitudinous commentators that criticism of Mackey and my elucidation of Huma Abedin's Sufic link to a particular mode of radical Islam does not equate to support for Trump. Just get a different tactic for godsakes.
Just you wait Mr Useless, Feth Gulen is swimming back to Turkey once we throw him into the ocean, just like we did the Brits. Anthony Sausage can give him company on the trip.
Pardon me please General if, as futile as it may prove to be, I endeavor to clarify here a very widespread confusion in the USA. The sausages frequently alluded to in discussions of Anthony Weiner are so-called Wiener Wuerstl — Wiener here as the adjective of the German Wien, as in the city of Vienna as we anglophones know it. Whereas the name Weiner, unless this harks back perhaps to some mistaken spelling, has nothing at all to do with that — either it is derived from Wein, as in wine; or it suggests someone who’s a whiner, in that ein Weiner means someone who cries. Surely Anthony Weiner must have learned this somewhere sometime along the way. So what’s actually most curious is that he would seem, himself, to have positively embraced the notion — or fantasy — that a Weiner is some kind of German sausage.
Read today at AW that Obomba said they’d find the coup source.
Pennsylvania?
Or some used Turkish used car salesman in TX?
P.S. I should properly have noted that, back in 1997, the then Turkish government’s prosecution of Gulen was grounded in, precisely, the fact that he was secretly advocating among his followers the adoption by the nation of a mode of shariah law (as attested by eavesdropping). — And here I might note as an aside, given the wretched state of this modern world, that were shariah law confined exclusively to its prohibition of usury (as per Christian Europe during the Middle Ages), then I myself could very easily find myself persuaded certain of its tenets might make a great deal of sense. So let no-one think I’m prejudiced and bigoted on that score. What’s a bit weird though, come to think of it, is that Huma Abedin could as I suppose a professed Muslim so closely associate herself with a person who, over the years, has shown herself perfectly unconscionable as regards the shamelessly predatory & parasitic modus operandi of Wall Street.
toidiY sselesU,
I greatly appreciate reading your thoughts.
You are drawing a connection between Abedin and Gulen based upon Sufism, the cornerstone of US/EU / Masonry ideology. With so many Sufi’s in the world, do you further evidence of that link?
The claim is astonishing and quite consequential, but I am not sure the Sufi link is sufficient to draw any conclusions.
Thanks, 151. My own interest in & knowledge of Sufism goes back 50 years to my first acquaintance back then with the ideas of Gurdjieff and the writings of one of the many exponents of his so-called teachings — J. G. Bennett, who was personally very familiar with immediately post-Ottoman Turkey (as of 1918), and fluent in the language. (Indeed, I came to know him personally just a bit, as I did quite a number of other persons who had been more or less close to Georgi Ivanovitch Gurdjieff personally). I shortly came to learn quite a great deal more about Sufism from the works of Idries Shah, for a brief time a former associate of Bennett, here not to mention certain other authors (like Rafael Lefort!), and thereby came to attain something of an historical grasp of Sufism and the often seminal if secretive role played by ‘the masters of wisdom’ in world-affairs, of course more particularly in the Middle East & Central Asia, over the course of the centuries. I was also to become aware that, during more recent times, what with the increasingly greater intercourse between east and west, that a more or less informal then more or less formal social-cum-business traffic gradually came into existence between Sufis in the [part-colonized] Middle East and Free Masons in the [colonialist] west. And, to the extent that in rather more recent times Gulenists have succeeded to establish themselves and their cemaat in nations like the UK and the Netherlands — and this probably holds true @ the USA, too — they have traded on those long-extant connections with Free Masonry and are in that sense, beyond their religious and ideological underpinnings, recognized as the true legatees of Sufism inasmuch as that nebulous entity ever gained any currency at all in the west. As one might say, albeit at risk of sounding crass, there are a number within modern Free Masonry who, in their colossal vanity, have embraced the fundamentally romantic and elitist notion that the Sufis in nations like Turkey are actually, de facto, the free masons of the east — righteous & principled & straight-thinking persons who can be trusted, and with whom one can therefore risk forging a business (as in ticaret) relationship (as in, let’s say, the importation of almonds; and the exportation of stainless steel). Thus, a devoted Free Mason whom I came to know, used his Belgian and South African FM connections to set up a large marble-export business in Turkey and came to the country pretty much apprised in advance just which big wheels to get in touch with and what lubricants to have ready. —- As for the Abedins, an ethnically Indian and Muslim family, Huma’s father Syad (and for all I know her mother, too) presented himself after some years as an academic working in Saudi Arabia as an expert on all the Middle East and, in the west, as an advocate of ‘interfaith dialogue’ — just the very notion that, in the exoteric (as opposed to the esoteric) domain, the US Gulenists have championed with, thanks to Huma Abedin (cf. the Wikileaks emails) as intermediary, the rapturous if utterly misinformed and uncritical (qua: purchased) a$$ent of both Hill and Billary Clinton (cf. YouTube). Notoriously, most Americans always tend to go by and to be deceived by appearances, just as the majority of them are hollywood and tv addicts. Thus, in the current demonization of Islam currently rampant in so many US quarters (also, come to that, in Europe), they focus on the visibly identifiable fundamentalists — this all goes so much to appearances — without considering perhaps that, if Turkey and certain other countries in the general neighborhood are anything to go by, the only real threat to democracy in the USA would be posed by the Gulenists, whose modus operandi it is, in Texas for example, to infiltrate local politics (cf. charter schools, etc.) with a view, in the long haul, so one would suppose, to usurp the-powers-that-be ever higher up the state and federal pyramid — yeah, almost as if in imitation of a ponzi-scheme in certain respects. Mind, so many other religious faiths can be aptly enough compared to ponzi-schemes inasmuch as h*wh*Y would always seem to come out the fucking winner at the expense of all his/her many investors, who only ever stand to recoup their investments by selling faith and thereby recruiting yet more true believers. The house always wins. I am reminded of all this every time I have a dollar-bill in my wallet and set eyes on that Free Mason’s pyramid. So these days I tend to carry with me only foreign currencies but for British pounds — I just can’t stand to give countenance to that Queen printed on every fucking single one of them.
Fascinating, and way beyond what anyone is talking about, I hope I am not the only this.
Gulen’s actions are atypical of a private citizen, but rather as someone who is dedicated to an established ideology, one that a mere mortal could not possibly conceive in a single lifetme.
These ancient and secretive theologies are still running our world. The monotheistic religions are so boring and predictable anyway.
151, I meant but forgot to say:- Go google on Gulen + Naqshbandi and you will learn that, at any rate as represented somewhere there, his Hizmet movement constitutes one of three streams of Naqshbandi Sufism. Moreoiver, I think I recall right that a connection with Free Masonry in the West is expressly indicated. The author Doris Lessing, one of Idries Shah’s circle, stands as an example of someone immersed in Sufic teachings yet, while not exactly hiding that, it was never part of her public persona and platform. And that goes to my general point, made elsewhere, that while one’s private confession = elective religion is one thing, and all very fine, to adopt a private agenda but then to proselytize on its behalf in the public sphere without full disclosure (as per Gulen and his multitude of followers) risks being judged as subversive of democracy — whatever that might or might not be worth. At least as a young man during the mid-1930s, the US author William S. Burroughs (whom I came to know personally and to cherish during his last years) was an elitist who condemned ‘democracy’ as no more than rule by a load of useless idiots; and I must admit that, still today, I find a (tiny) place in my heart for such Benito-style arrogance. I don’t know, but I imagine it’s possible the events of 1939-1945 served to disabuse Burroughs of such a pet-notion. And as for me, I blame god for having created, allegedly in his own image at that, such a defective species as humanity — that fucking arsehole should not only have to be transparent, but by now be held very heavily accountable. Assange, Snowden, Kim Dotcom, and Greenwald to the rescue, methinks. Oh, and of course Dr. Jill Stein, too! — Do write me a word here and lemme know you did catch up with this posting so I won’t have to repeat the-same-old-shit next time we consort here @ The Intercept.
How the hell could she be an agent for the MB,when she is the hell bitches aide?
She is an agent of zion,just like her boss.
Who now? Jill Stein, or HRC, or Martha or Minna Bernays, or Princess Marie Bonaparte?
Ya got me.I’m perplexed myself.I must have been on another thread.
I don’t expect Donald Trump to stop lying about anything.
These series of articles over Trump remind me the soviet news outlets style of focusing on the declared enemies of the state abroad while remaining silent to the internal problems of the state. Given that the readership of The Intercept is as likely to vote Trump as the Fox news crowd are to vote Jill Stein I believe its fair to conclude that the role Mackey is playing in The Intercept is trying to divert the attention of The Intercept readership away from Clinton’s wrongdoings to somehow make voting for her down the line more palatable. Sad…
you might be right
Be here, speak out, make your case. It is my observation that the people on this board are intelligent, educated, well informed, independent and resourceful.
then again you might be wrong
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/25/why-did-the-saudi-regime-and-other-gulf-tyrannies-donate-millions-to-the-clinton-foundation
You got to it before me… +1, subby…
i’m not exactly playing fair, waking in the middle of the night, up too early.
Sure, Trump is a clown, but here’s an interesting series of emails between Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin in March 2011 at the height of the Arab Spring protests in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Libya:
24510 2011-03-05 03:37 SAUDI ARABIA BANS ALL PROTEST AND MARCHES (REUTERS) Hillary Clinton Huma Abedin
12710 2011-03-11 06:12 H: Q’S TRICK, GALIL’S APPROACH. SID Hillary Clinton Huma Abedin
28492 2011-03-13 03:16 SAUDI TROOPS ENTER BAHRAIN, PROTESTERS GATHER (REUTERS) Huma Abedin Hillary Clinton
Basically this shows that Hillary Clinton was fully aware of events in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Libya; she chose to completely ignore the Saudi/Bahrain crackdown on protesters and called Gaddafi’s effort to seek negotiated peace “a trick”. The Gaddafi email in particular is revealing:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12710
The direct warnings about Al Qaeda-related groups gaining control of weapons and rising to power if Gaddafi was overthrown in that email make for interesting reading.
Hillary Clinton, the foreign policy disaster; or Donald Trump, the domestic policy disaster? What kind of godwaful choice is that? Sure, I’m voting for Jill Stein, but the odds on that are rather low. What other positive outcome could there be?
Fantasy scenario: Hillary Clinton beats Donald Trump, and is immediately indicted over Clinton Foundation dealings in a replay of the downfall of Nixon in his second term, throwing her warmongering foreign policy agenda into disarray and preventing her from conducting any more disastrous regime change games. Wouldn’t that be wonderful?
It would be wonderful if Clinton went out the Nixon way. (Lest we forget, Nixon “won” in a “landslide”.) Then again, with so many Republicans backing Clinton, and honest Democrats being denied office (See the recent defeats of Tim Canova and Alan Grayson), it’s sadly unlikely for Hillary Clinton to get kicked out.
As for the email, it just proves the claims of Ghadaffi wanting to kill everyone in Benghazi were bare-faced lies, like the Clinton/Bush claims of Iraq WMD.
I scratch my head over that domestic disaster part.
What the hell is happening now?
Closing the borders,bringing back good jobs,ending trade steals,fixing infrastructure and education failure are domestic negatives?
Racial relations are good?
The man is an American for America,a most level headed business orientated smart guy.A real one instead of the 12 dimensional chess master.
between Trump and Hillary. who is more war prone?
i need the answer for this election.
Obviously. Probably a good idea to figure out how to make that choice..
For me, it depends. Picking Trump means picking corporatist advisors and dod advisors. Picking Clinton is picking a much more known quantity. Picking Stein is (to me) the best choice (I would trust her choices in advisors more than Trump’s judgment). Id trust Hillary’s more than Trump’s as a second choice purely because Trump is utterly chaotic and unpredictable. I still wish Sanders had gotten the democratic nomination. #ISawTheStein (man that’s cheesy, sorry, but #JillNotHill is too negative for my tastes).
This is his new strategy? Quite a low, and only convinces the ever-shrinking Conspiracy Theorists that are following a serial liar and Sociopath that is heading for a catastrophic loss. At least he can call David Duke and Vladimir Putin for sympathy.
And what do DD and VP have in common?They are white?
The ever shrinking conspiracy theorists?
No,they are growing by leaps and bounds,as revelation after revelation reveal HRC as a corrupt mole traitor for zion,and the worst choice in our history for POTUS.
Trump isn’t a great option, but Hillary is a mass murderer and a traitor. This is an irrefutable, black and white fact.
Which is worse? A vocal xenophobe or a known mass murdering traitor?
Xenophobe or rational American patriot,who knows open borders in a time of terrorism and economic misery make American lives worse off?
Simple logic the American people will select in Nov.
There can’t be that many traitors within our borders to vote HB.
I continue to be astonished as to why Republicans would continue to spread lies about Hillary Clinton when the truth would be more damaging.
I do not understand what the big deal is about Benghazi being blamed on Clinton’s emails or Clinton’s allegedly not sending military support, but not on Clinton pushing for a war in Libya to aid the Islamist rebels against the secular government.
I do not understand why Abedin’s ties to terrorist groups are made up and pushed, but her support for regime change by Islamist rebels against secular regimes in the Middle East is not a big deal.
I do not understand why Clinton’s financial dealings with Russia are a big deal, but not her dealings with the Saudis and Gulf States.
Then again, I don’t see many Republicans who are opposed to regime changes targeting secular Arab leaders, or dealing with the Saudis, and despite a majority of Republicans opposing the Libya war, they never had the guts to cut funding, order the military to cease fighting (or to target the Islamists), or to impeach Obama and Clinton for (at least) violating the War Powers Act.
why would Republicans lie when the truth would be more damaging?
Because all the bad truths about Hillary apply to the Republicans too. It’s all stuff they like and endorse themselves.
Vote Jill Stein. (Or even Gary Johnson, at least he’s human).
Indeed. And given how Republicans try to throw out honest Republicans (see Bob Inglis and Walter Jones (fortunately unsuccessful)) and Democrats try and throw out honest Democrats (see Alan Grayson, Tim Canova, Dennis Kucinich, Cynthia McKinney), it’s all the more reason to vote for honest candidates.
Trump reminds me a CEO who once observed that he knew that half of his advertising budget was wasted. The trouble was, he didn’t know which half.
Of course, it could be that Mackey is reading too much into a tweet. Taking a tweet as some sort of policy statement seems overdone. In fact, this seems like it is just an off-the-cuff remark. However, going after Abedin IS silly. Trumpzilla isn’t in the primaries anymore and anyway Hillary’s negatives can only go so low. He should leave the low road to Roger Stone.
When Trump says that the Clintons have had their time and America should turn the page and start a new chapter in American history, he is hitting on all cylinders.
If Trumpzilla loses, he has only himself to blame.
Clinton is the terrorist sympathizer and the security risk, in bed with with the Saudi regime, selling them tens of billions of dollars worth of WMD’s…the regime that gave us al Qaeda and the attacks on the US, and now, with support from the US regime in the form of weapons and money, has given us ISIS, for whom Hillary opened up Libya as a training and recruiting ground.
truth.
I’ve never been particularly curious about Ms Abedin because of the company she keeps.
Interesting article, Mr Mackey.
What an absolute waste of time reading this article. Why do you have to defend Hillary and everyone around her? The intercept used to be a good source of real news in the past, but all you are now is wing of the Democratic Party just like Democracy Now. We are not interested in Huma Abedin’s marriage but Hillary Clinton’s Health Status, her Email dealings and the corruption going on in the Clinton Foundation. Why are you lot not reporting on that? Glen Greenwald used to be someone many of us believed in, but now we know he’s just a paid Shill. FYI I was a democrat all my life and voted dems in 5 elections, but no more!
This “reporter” is surely on someone’s pay roll, peddling this ridiculous distraction to push a morally void politically agenda for money. Why didn’t someone else at the intercept read this garbage before putting it in front of everyone, forever tying the Intercepts reputation to such trash?
Glenn wrote an article less than a week ago on corruption at the Clinton Foundation: https://theintercept.com/2016/08/25/why-did-the-saudi-regime-and-other-gulf-tyrannies-donate-millions-to-the-clinton-foundation/
Thank you, Robert, this is an excellent article, and more of these are indeed needed soon if we are not to see the most dangerous psychopath this world has ever seen rise to the office with the greatest power in the world. Today, the Times is calling for the shutting down of the Clinton Foundation. But notice this, not a single line of ink spilled on exploring the incredible things that the Foundation has done and is doing in the world, not in the Times, not on The Intercept, not on Democracy Now, not anywhere. Just baseless conspiracy theories such as the ones you write about surrounding Hil’s top aid, Human. This article about the racism against Huma and Conway’s racism is actually “radical reporting” in this environment with journalists such as Greenwald, Hannity, Megan Kelly and others joining hands in their irrational exuberant hatred of Hillary. Thousands of article on the right and left malign the Clintons and ignore the good in the world; these are main stream. The clown show commentators on this site are perfect examples of those who secretly believe that they’re the chosen “smart” radical ones but they are as ho-hum mainstream as Megan Kelly and Maura Liasson and the New York Times and Fox News. Like I said, not a single article dares to look inside the Foundation and explore the incredible impact it has and continues to have on lives all over the planet, not a single article on the Clinton Parameters, nor on Hillary’s progressive record in the Senate or her historic attempt to pass single payer health insurance fifteen years before its time.
Right string baby, wrong yo-yo.
And David Brock and Deflect the Record is in the house…
They do terrific work fighting the AIDS virus. That’s why Saudi Arabia gives them so much money.
Shorter Jimmy:
“Leave Hillary Aloooooooooonnnnnnne!”
“Hil is Awesome Sauce!”
“Do Not Speak Ill of Hill!”
“Corporate Centrist ChickenWarHawk Dems Uber Alles!”
Take your fairy tales somewhere else.
who
cares
Shh… Mackey needs to get his umpteen articles a week in, and it is a great place to toss out non-sequiturs. Guarana! Mesopotamia! Hippopotamus! Alamogordo! Rigmarole! J/k Mackey. :P
(Waits for the filters to jump into action thinking I misspelled ssh and that I encoded a passphrase and mac address somehow. ;))
What a waste of cyber space. Mackey is definitely a member of the Democratic Borg propaganda wing, Bahgdad Bob chapter.
Where are the Intercept articles on Hellary’s brain damage and colostomy bag?
Presidential contenders need to prove that they are up to the task.
I think that so called colostomy bag was emptied into your head…what utter garbage.
Heh, Joe. I was just thinking of how it is easy to smell these trolls. Now we know why: that seemingly endless, and incredibly well funded, GOP colostomy bag.
Uh,for the record Baghdad Bob was totally correct in his take on the idiocy of the Iraq War,which of course is now totally clear to non zionists.
Very interesting background and great article, thanks
I wonder if Hillary will stop lying about emails, Benghazi, her husband’s actions, being under “sniper” fire as well as laughing about proudly defending a know rapist who sexually abused a 12 year old girl…etc…Oh, but “what difference does it make now”….
Mackey, don’t you get tired from carrying all thst water?
This is silly — a waste of electrons. Trump is a non-stop serial calumniator and his individual spewings are not worthy of notice, especially as he is simply not a serious contender for the presidency.
Real Clear Politics’ Electoral College map, based on average of polls, shows Clinton at 272 and Trump at 154.
270toWin’s “2016 Competitive” map shows Clinton at 249, Trump at 153.
All nine (9) of the pundit forecasts at 270toWin have Clinton at over 270.
The august Irish bookmaker Paddy Power has Clinton at 2/7, Trump at 5/2. ;^)
He shouldn’t say mean things about Abedin and she shouldn’t play consigliere for The Godmother. The latter is probably more of a problem for US democracy and the fate of civilization as we know it.
Here’s something else that matters: Killary leads Trump 5-to-1 in donations from employees of the top 25 military contractors. What’s that old expression. . .? Oh, yeah, “They know on which side their bread is buttered.”
LOL.
The who fore president depends on 2 factors.
The biggest liar.
The biggest liar believers.
The clown is a zionist,and is propagandizing his wishful thinking.
If Trump was actually losing,like they claim,would they have resorted to the poison press and McCarthy tactics they are currently using?
They are scared shiteless their reign over US and the world is about to end,and their grandiose dreams of Greater Israel,from the Nile to the Euphrates neutered.
LOL
Paddy Power and other bookmakers take bets online, Nate. You might have to use a proxy to disguise your US location, but just think of the upside if Trump wins.
How much are you willing to bet?
IS THAT WHAT THIS IS??????
is it really possible now that journalism is feeding the odds makers!?
jeezus effin keeeeeeee riced
Thank you for this great informative write up.
Mackey’s momma must be very proud of him…
Trump thinks Muslim infiltrators are everywhere, and Clinton thinks Russian infiltrators are everywhere.
Both are simply projecting their inadequacies and excusing their respective failures to approximate decency.
Actually, neither of them probably really believes those things. They are both simply playing to the lowest common denominators of what they believe are their likely voting blocs.
And, boy, are they ever low fucking denominators — as befits the lowlife clown show that is this year’s election campaign.
I agree that they are cynically using these motifs, and your summary of that point is perfect – but I also believe that they are paranoid and thoughtless enough to genuinely find the ploys useful to project away their extreme lack of integrity and excuse their prejudices and future plans.
well, 1. the ISIL guys have drug deals with the mexican cartels who want to dominate the American youth….
and 2. think hatchlings, or moth, cocoon, emergence, 17 year locusts…..
“Trump thinks Muslim infiltrators are everywhere…”
They are. The Saudis will own a Clinton White House. Bush/Obama already gave them a “get out of jail free card” for 9/11, playing patty cake with Bandar and Co., and Clinton and Obama having already granted them access to somewhere on the order of $100 billion dollars worth of weapons, or calling them by their rightful name, WMD’s, and the information needed to use them, in stunning instances of mass murder in e.g. Yemen. And this for a couple of paltry millions donated to the Clinton Foundation…Its difficult to imagine how much more infiltrated the regime in Washington could be, than it has been over the past 16 years.
That isn’t Muslim infiltration, but the corruption you delineate is real. The US establishment (inclusive of Trump, who for all his ability to be thrown into previously uncharacteristic xenophobic panic at the drop of an Islamic hat is probably in on the whole game) is supporting Saudi Wahhabism specifically and thus playing with fire in the Middle East, This is not coercion by anyone outside the oligarchic elite itself, for the goals are aligned with Zionist and corporate interests plus of course Full Spectrum Dominance of the region. Neither Russians nor Muslims in any general sense are controlling either Party, and the notions that they do exist largely as exploitative cynicisms and paranoid delusions.
Both sides of the establishment, Trump and Clinton, are ultimately identical.
maisie – you are a smart person
but you need to envision a larger farther out picture.
our lives dwell in a small timeframe, snap, born over and done
Think how tough it is to turn an oil tanker, or stop a freight train seeing a car stuck at the crossing.
Once you identify the types of forces at play, and the vulnerabilities of the opposing forces, you will see things a little differently and you might be thinking, how long can what we have last?
Mexico, for example, has a drug economy so large now, it is a significant part of theri GDP.
We, America, are in a big fix. Wallstreet creating debt and poverty, 1M a year crashing the border since 1975, politicians owned, infrastructure in hell.
we’re in a serious mess. And what is America’s biggest industry? Weapons and entertainment and tech spying. Oh yeah, real good.
The Saudis exist at the mercy of zion.End of story.
As far as that goes,I haven’t read,heard or saw anything about Russians killing Americans for being American,as some Muslim immigrants have.
I’m not anti Muslim at all,and I recognize their rage,but the facts are there for all to see.
Oh, the Huma-nity…
Don’t Expect Donald Trump to Stop Lying About Huma Abedin
AND
Don’t Expect Hillary Clinton to Stop Lying To Congress, To The F…B…I…, For Wallstreet, To The American People, About Everything.
have a nice day
I won’t expect HRC to stop lying because I have no reason to believe she started lying in the first place. Every accusation of her lying (except in the mundane way in which I would wish you a good day when I actually hope you’d suffer from your ignorance if only to help you see the error of your ways) has turned out to be, well, a lie. So if I have to chose between HRC who by and large has been found to be unreasonably truthful, and habitual liars like you, I know whom to trust.
The lie detector exploded at her interview.It couldn’t handle her truth.
Huma has married and tolerated a known sexual predator; just like Hillary.
But Mackey to the rescue.
Perfectly stated.
But Hillary will sublimate all her tensions in her own inimitable, time-honored American fashion, by bombing defenseless people, who have nothing whatsoever to do with anything going on here, into jelly and rubble, and attempting to start WWIII with Russia and China. One wonders if Abedin has similar releases planned